Hey= Portuguese Translations issues === Mixed translations? == Hi, I think there maybe a mistake here. Both the Index page and the Preface page I reviewed were translated to Brazilian.Is this intentional? If it is, I would need a different page set for Portuguese (maybe named Portugal?).I wouldn't want to destroy anybody's work. Thank you. [[User:Pmra]] :: Spotted this that may interest you [https://gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=10205 New manual/wiki language add ISO pt_PT for Portugal translations.] [[User:GulliblePangolin|GulliblePangolin]] ([[User talk:GulliblePangolin|talk]]) 00:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC) ::: Yes, it seems the same problem. So, what should I do, continue editing or wait for a new set of pages?[[User:Pmra]] == Please Reverse Contributions == Hi, I probably messed up the pages.Could I ask you to revert all my contributions to the old state (Brazilian translations) and create a blank index page for Portugal?I'm not sure I can do it and not very willing to try. Many thanks in advance.[[User:Pmra]] :: I'll take another look in at it tomorrow and work out what needs to be done. [[User:Sam888|Sam888! Thanks for ]] ([[User talk:Sam888|talk]]) 02:55, 6 April 2020 (UTC) == Reverse Revertions? == Hi Sam, I knew that the editing was in old revisions of the wiki. It was an opportunity to reduce the clutter in the current Category indices. Particularly important was consolidating the mis-categorized non-english pages. (Both so they didn't obstruct browsing by the welcome! English-only users and so the non-English speakers could find all the translated pages in their language.) The Category indices are almost unnavigable. Isn't this a forgivable modification of historic pages? Warm regards[[User:Bamaustin|Bamaustin]] ([[User talk:Bamaustin|talk]]) 04:49, 6 April 2020 (UTC)=Reminder to add when you can pretty please :)=[[User_talk:GulliblePangolin#Add_Wikipedia:Citation_templates]][[User:ChillsGulliblePangolin|ChillsGulliblePangolin]] ([[User talk:ChillsGulliblePangolin|talk]]) 1702:5434, 21 February 14 May 2020 (UTC): Thank you Ok, on my list, as mentioned cannot promise a eta apart from within 6 months, [[User:Sam888|Sam888]] ([[User talk:Sam888|talk]]) 00:16, 16 May 2020 (UTC) =Mediawiki request:Lua Script=Hi Sam888, When you have a moment can you consider installing Lua script so we can use the current generation of templates from mediawiki/wikipedia some of the benefits are improved performance and simpler to program the templates. [[User:Daleathan|Daleathan]] ([[User talk:Daleathan|talk]]) 23:37, 29 May 2020 (UTC):: To make things easierOk I'd like this installed also please. Attempted to bring a template across from wikipedia and found out LUA was not installed here. --[[User:Gioto|Gioto]] ([[User talk:Gioto|talk]]) 22:45, perhaps protect the pages that you don14 July 2020 (UTC) Wouldn't want a full implementation of Lua script interpreter require a huge commitment to adding Security, monitoring for malware and server overloads? Since it is user programming, it would probably also need a testbed site to minimize the risk of crashing the public site. There DOES seem to be edited and then a safer intermediate option where Lua Script can be used like a compiler to generate debugged static templates. It seems like a more widely leveraged investment would be to add a more modern WYSIWYG page content editor. (Since the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Editor#Former javascript-based MediaWiki editor] we're currently using was deprecated in January!) [[User:Bamaustin|Bamaustin]] ([[User talk:Bamaustin|talk]]) 23:46, 14 July 2020 (UTC) :::I'll know which ones investigate if this is possible on our current hosting plan and if Gramp-project really needs to use LUA. (We are currently using MediaWiki 1.31.3 and that editor was removed in MediaWiki 1.32.x ) [[User:Sam888|Sam888]] ([[User talk:Sam888|talk]]) 00:35, 16 July 2020 (UTC)::::Hi @Sam888 Thanks for the consideration to investigate. @Bamaustin I am allowed to edit've no opinion about Lua and the commitment required security wise. If Not sure how a replacement editor will help in my case as the template I make any mistakeswas bringing over works outside of CSS code. Both your efforts are appreciated --[[User:Gioto|Gioto]] ([[User talk:Gioto|talk]]) 03:12, please let me know! 16 July 2020 (UTC)
:: Hi Sam888, some the reasons why I think that you have made a grammar mistake. You spelled the word "note" wrong and forgot to add the "e" at the end. It doesn't matterwant LUA are mentioned on my talk page, I have sorted it! https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Bamaustin&action=edit§ion=2 thanks anyway --[[User:ChillsDaleathan|ChillsDaleathan]] ([[User talk:ChillsDaleathan|talk]]) 0809:5229, 24 February 20 July 2020 (UTC)
=renaming the gramplets page =Do you have any suggestions on if I should do this change? Thank you for noticing. --[[User:Gioto|Gioto]] ([[User talk:Gioto|talk]]) 08: As mentioned by other person33, please don't modify my message text in anyway31 August 2020 (UTC): Good Idea. Please hold off doing this until Mediawiki has been upgraded. Just waiting on the release of MediaWiki 1.35. If I made a mistake then I made a mistake!! So long as you can understand what I'm attempting x (LTS) which was meant to communicate it should be okreleased in August! Testing of Mediawiki has gone well with this version so far. [[User:Sam888|Sam888]] ([[User talk:Sam888|talk]]) 0204:2731, 25 February 1 September 2020 (UTC)
== A bit offended =Synchronizing user manual=UhHi, Sam888do you have a simpler method of syncing the user manual? I was considering going page by page and adding in missing English sections to the other languages pages (in English only), my name isn't Chrislike I just did for the about page, it or should I not do that? Can I swap the order of the two templates at the top and bottom so that language is Dove1st then the index template and at the bottom in reverse of that, I am a female. My username so the language section is Chills. --below the language template? [[User:ChillsDaleathan|ChillsDaleathan]] ([[User talk:ChillsDaleathan|talk]]) 1006:0547, 25 February 2020 29 January 2021 (UTC)eg:change: Uh, auto-correction on mobile phone as the other person guessed!! [[User:Sam888* (man index| )* (languages|Sam888]] )to* ([[User talk:Sam888languages|talk]]) 05:38, 27 February 2020 * (UTCman index| )
== Permission ==Hello:: Hi Dale, Sam! Can thanks for considering I have your permission to have 'm pretty sure it would be appreciated. As for a page of myself on simpler method sorry no, currently and for the mainspace? It will be about me being foreseeable future it is only a contributor on this manual process, the person who moved the user manual to the wiki. In fact, perhaps you could create it. Page name is no longer with the project and the method the project used before was able to be calledpackaged with the program for offline use as well as supporting translation offline quite easily using the [https: [[Dove Windsor]//www.sphinx-doc.org/en/1.5/intl.html Sphnix system]! I agree that swapping the order of the templates makes sense, but hold off until the 5.2 user manual rollover please . --[[User:ChillsSam888|ChillsSam888]] ([[User talk:ChillsSam888|talk]]) 0900:4743, 26 5 February 2020 2021 (UTC):: Sorry no self promotion allowed on the Gramps wiki as it is only for the user manual and general genealogy articles. You may raise this on the Gramps users mailing list if you feel the Gramps project should changing to allow this, but I beleive wikipedia/your own personal website or your personal user page on the wiki are ok.
==Are you a Gramps user?==By the way are you a Gramps user, what version (Gramps 5.1.2 is the current release)? I only ask as some of the edits do not match the messages and tooltips in the interface(for US English) so if you have an issue with the messages then a translation improvement should be made for the next release of Gramps, then when the user manual is rolled over the changes you have made would match, please be careful. [[UserTemplate:Sam888|Sam888Icon/doc]] ([[User talk:Sam888|talk]]) 05:36, 27 February 2020 (UTC)=
:: Did you intend to put this message on your own pageHi Sam, or on user Chills talk page? [[User:GulliblePangolin|GulliblePangolin]] ([[User talk:GulliblePangolin|talk]]) 05:17, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
::: WhoopsQuit a lot of the icons I'm tying to use during translating the user manual, thanks are showing question mars for noticing! [[User:Sam888example; {{icon|Sam888]] ([[User talk:Sam888|talk]]) 01:42tdow}} I'd expect it to show a drop down list icon, or, is there something wrong with my settings?----I'd really like to learn how these icon family templates can be repaired & properly added too. A couple years ago, 3 March 2020 (UTC)this domain had bandwidth issues that rendering errors when webpages had too many icons inserted. That seems to have been cleared up.
==Protect pages But questions on how to maintain/repair/use the transclusion template for graphics have never been answered. (I think that the person who originally added [[Template:Icon/doc|these templates]] and the [[Gramps_icon_set]] templates may no longer be active.) And I find the parameter passing portion of old user manual==template writing to be indecipherable. (As you might be able to tell from my failed attempt to build a 'deprecated notice' template.
Can you please protect the [[PT:Manual Wiki Gramps 5.0]] user manual. Thanks [[User:GulliblePangolinBamaustin|GulliblePangolinBamaustin]] ([[User talk:GulliblePangolinBamaustin|talk]]) 14:52, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
== Mixed translations: I think that the person who originally added [[Template:Icon/doc|these templates]] and the [[Gramps_icon_set]] templates may no longer be active No I'm active and in our [https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Daleathan previous conversation] on my talk page I mentioned the reason was::: the only way to improve the icon template is for the webmaster(That is Sam888 right? ==) to install Lua scripting and then we can use the current version of the icon template that is written in Lua So we wait. [[User:Daleathan|Daleathan]] ([[User talk:Daleathan|talk]]) 22:50, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
HiCan't we still populate the missing items even without migrating to a current version in Lua? It may not be the best approach but,as the old proverb Voltaire quoted: “best is the enemy of the good”
I think there maybe a mistake here.[[User:Bamaustin|Bamaustin]] ([[User talk:Bamaustin|talk]]) 23:03, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
Both the Index page and the Preface page ::: I reviewed were translated 'll attempt to Brazilian.Is update Media-wiki again this intentional? If it isweekend hopefully they have worked out the issues I'm encountering! [[User:Sam888|Sam888]] ([[User talk:Sam888|talk]]) 01:52, I would need a different page set for Portuguese 16 July 2021 (maybe named Portugal?UTC).I wouldn't want to destroy anybody's work.
Thank you:::: Did attempt upgrade of Mediawiki but it failed and the suggested [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212428 work arounds] did not work! At this point I'm considering installing a new copy of Mediawiki and manually ( or programmatically ) copying over all the existing content, I'll research this option a bit more and may have to call on volunteers to help with the move! [[User:Sam888|Sam888]] ([[User talk:Sam888|talk]]) 01:03, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
= Multilingual website =
Hi, Have you considered instead of Wordpress for the Blog using Joomla because you can create a multilingual website, without having to install any third party extension?
:: Spotted this that may interest you [https://gramps-projectdocs.joomla.org/bugs/view.php?id=10205 New manual/wiki language add ISO pt_PT for Portugal translationsJ3.] [[User:GulliblePangolin|GulliblePangolin]] ([[User talk:GulliblePangolin|talk]]) 00x:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)Setup_a_Multilingual_Site
Yes[[User:CallMeDave|CallMeDave]] ([[User talk:CallMeDave|talk]]) 09:43, it seems the same problem. So, what should I do, continue editing or wait for a new set of pages?19 July 2021 (UTC)
==Remove TrueOS from Download page==Hi Sam:Yes; previously investigated with a view to integrating both the blog and wiki into one and while promising the amount of the effort involved to migrate both to Joomla is significant, TrueOS is goneas well as not being as simple as Mediawiki for users. read: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=No-More-TrueOS It's Official But Sad: TrueOS Is Over As Once The Best Desktop BSD OS] & [https://www.ixsystems.com/community/threads/Only replacing the blog is-trueos-abandoned.82183/#post-574390]a strong possibility but requires a new Gramps site template to be created and all the old blog entries etc to be migrated again a lot of effort. Should I remove it or wait Thanks for the official announcement from TrueOSsuggestion and link.[[User:GulliblePangolinSam888|GulliblePangolinSam888]] ([[User talk:GulliblePangolinSam888|talk]]) 00:2558, 29 March 2020 23 July 2021 (UTC)